Handicap System Changes: For and Against!

November 24, 2015

There's no denying golfers are having strong reactions to yesterday's news from the USGA that rounds of golf played alone will no longer be able to be posted for Handicap purposes. In fact, the reactions have been so strong that Golf Digest compiled a list of social media freakouts on the subject. Considering we oversee the Handicaps of 150,000 SCGA members, we canvassed Studio City headquarters to get the internal pulse, yet unofficial opinions were divided. Below, please see both for and against points of view (staff members who participated preferred to remain anonymous, but wanted to remind our friends at the USGA that we love them and will carry out USGA policy accordingly).

FOR

Peer Review has always been integral to the success of the Handicap System, so the USGA came to the conclusion that playing alone didn’t position any type of peer review to take place.

The Rules of Golf require verification of a score and the USGA decided to more stringently align Handicap System and Rules of Golf policies.

Let’s be realistic about integrity, honor and the game of golf. Tournament scoreboards in net competitions are full of winners where other participants know the number for a contestant’s handicap is not a valid indicator of that player’s potential ability.

In addition, there is a desire on the USGA’s part for a World Handicap System and posting scores for handicap purposes while playing alone is not allowed in many other parts of the world, so perhaps here the USGA just chose to compromise on one element to move toward greater uniformity.

I read that there are more handicap changes coming down the road, so I’m holding out for a bigger picture vision vs. focusing on one small element of a system that likely impacts a relatively small number of golfers.

AGAINST

It feels as if the USGA automatically thinks someone is going to cheat while playing alone – I don’t need someone to watch me to determine whether I follow the Rules.

The Handicap System is based off collecting as much data as possible about a golfer's ability, yet now the USGA is choosing to exclude some portion of scores played which can be by the book? Doesn't seem to match up.

The USGA already has a handicap decision in place to deal with practice, which it might believe becomes more likely to happen if playing alone – let's not throw out all scores played alone when something is in place already to deal with anomalies.

Posting a score for handicapping doesn’t require a scorecard, which indicates some level of trust, both on the course and afterward, so why this?

No one can legislate morality. Let's not try and start now.

Lots of talk about simplifying the Rules of the game, but big brother keeps introducing more policies and complexity.



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thevaporz

Handicap Index: 13.5
Tuesday, February 14, 2017

Boo

SoCalGolfer50

Handicap Index: 2.9
Monday, November 30, 2015

Unenforceable. As a handicap chairman, am I supposed to check and delete all scores posted for members of my club that I have no scorecard to verify that the round was not played alone? Anyone can still post a round of golf even when they play alone, and it is extremely unlikely that it will be picked up by a review. In the real world, not all scorecards get turned in for review, and so as it always has been, the individuals honesty and integrity comes into play when posting their score. It also allows for the player to play, improve, and not have to post those scores that might lower their handicap, so the next time they play their handicap does not reflect their improvement. As has been said, those that what to cheat on their handicap will find a way.

gbristol

Handicap Index: 14.2R
Friday, November 27, 2015

I agree with ITSMAGIC.  It seems as though the USGA lately has decided to dictate in a manner that will discourage more players from participating in casual rounds.  The rule change regarding the anchoring of a putter is another example of the USGA trying to discourage players from participating.

Bigdog007

Handicap Index: 17.2
Thursday, November 26, 2015

As a follow-up to comments concerning playing solo vs in groups, and to get more feedback to understand the root issues with the rule change, here are some additional comments based on family conversations on this Thanksgiving day.

“Your Passion. Our Purpose.”.... what Passion are we trying to support? Does this change do it?
i.e. What are we trying to solve with this rule change? ” ... the USGA decided to more stringently align Handicap System and Rules of Golf policies.”

What other rules are not being enforced that should be reviewed?

Unless we are all on TV with documented play,  Amateurs need to depend on the Integrity of the game.

There are ways to identify unusual tournament scoring.

sr129

Handicap Index: 28.9
Thursday, November 26, 2015

Anyone who wants to cheat will still find a way. How can you stop anyone from posting a solo score?
Its all up to the individual to be honest about the round. This really hurts those of us who are honest and chose to play alone at times.
Very bad rule change in my opinion.

Bigdog007

Handicap Index: 17.2
Thursday, November 26, 2015

Cheaters will always find a way to cheat. And, yes, there are sandbaggers out there. I think the SGGA should step up and create a better way of determining Handicaps that represent true skill and discourages sandbaggers.

While it has it’s merits, The lowest 10 out of the last 20 is like throwing rocks at the side of the barn, when you have sandbaggers.

I believe that there is a way to improve the handicap system and encourage the integrity of the game. Basically, it will allow each SCGA member to decide if they want to participate.

I am surprised that we have not seen more discussion from the SCGA on the options for improvement vs implemting rules that change the way golfers play their game.

There is a better way to calculate more accurate handicaps, even when there are some who want to buffer their HC.

itsmagic

Handicap Index: 18.4
Wednesday, November 25, 2015

This is absurd. The idea is to get more people interested in golf and this works against that. Anything that makes our game less appealing or restrictive is a bad idea.

ninesenough

Handicap Index: 12.9
Wednesday, November 25, 2015

I have no issue with the change. The issue that I have is it always comes down to one thing MONEY. The clubs have events that pay cash prizes. Para Mutuals Calcuttas Skin games and of course the hole in one that wins a car. We all know that there are no true amateurs if we follow the amateur rules to the letter.  My club does all of the above things and we have SCGA officials as membrs and participate in these events. The SCGA turns it head. How can you run an amateur organization and lets these things happed. As long as thousand of dollars are being paid to players in these invitationals and club events there will be chating going on.

mckenna

Handicap Index: 11.6
Wednesday, November 25, 2015

I think that the handicapping method should have a combination of scores, those played alone and those attested.  It would allow “dawn patrol” golfers to get in their weekly round before work and then also have a place for the “usual” foursome group game. 

 

 

limo

Handicap Index: 22.8
Wednesday, November 25, 2015

Being a high handicapper, this rule make sense to me. If the elite pro’s scores can be verified by TV viewers, why shouldn’t there be an actual witness to each score submitted by us lowly amateurs? I think it is too tempting for many, (not all tho) to play a round alone and add a few strokes to keep the handicap up in order to be more competitive in their club tourneys. I agree that many golfers know someone playing with a higher handicap than what they actually play to when in a tourney.

lhumburger

Handicap Index: 13.3
Tuesday, November 24, 2015

It doesn’t matter what is done.  Cheaters will always find a way to pad their scores.  Unfortunately, there are way too many baggers out there.  We all know who they are and nobody wants to do anything.  I will never play in another SCGA organized event.  Tournaments of whose the biggest sandbaggers.  Thankfully the greater percentage of our membership are gentlemen and honest.

wmyule

Handicap Index: NH
Tuesday, November 24, 2015

I am against the change.